WEBVTT 00:00:01.186 --> 00:00:03.456 A:middle Welcome to the Valley College Connection 00:00:03.606 --> 00:00:05.566 A:middle for John Kawhi and Scott wagon, 00:00:05.786 --> 00:00:08.606 A:middle two Valley professors engaged in a conversation 00:00:08.676 --> 00:00:11.516 A:middle about success with educators and students each week, 00:00:11.746 --> 00:00:13.446 A:middle they'll sit down with a different guest to find 00:00:13.446 --> 00:00:15.486 A:middle out ways each of us have had to plan, 00:00:15.616 --> 00:00:18.176 A:middle persevere, and overcome to where we are now. 00:00:18.446 --> 00:00:21.006 A:middle The show will also highlight resources and services 00:00:21.076 --> 00:00:23.486 A:middle that are working to make a difference at Valley College. 00:00:23.816 --> 00:00:27.036 A:middle This afternoon, we're joined by priest, the PUFA canal, 00:00:27.106 --> 00:00:29.006 A:middle Chair of Health Sciences and Director of 00:00:29.076 --> 00:00:31.286 A:middle the nursing program or Los Angeles Valley College. 00:00:31.406 --> 00:00:32.796 A:middle Thank you so much for joining us. 00:00:32.966 --> 00:00:33.896 A:middle Thank you, Scott. 00:00:34.016 --> 00:00:34.316 A:middle Thank You. 00:00:34.426 --> 00:00:36.956 A:middle Don't prefer we wanted to start off with 00:00:37.046 --> 00:00:38.516 A:middle some background information 00:00:38.516 --> 00:00:41.916 A:middle if you could take us down the road and how 00:00:42.046 --> 00:00:45.806 A:middle you can do to work at Valley College and take it as far 00:00:45.906 --> 00:00:47.326 A:middle back as you'd like to share 00:00:47.326 --> 00:00:49.966 A:middle with your educational journey was like and in school, 00:00:50.086 --> 00:00:52.326 A:middle how you decided to get into the field of health science, 00:00:52.406 --> 00:00:54.506 A:middle nursing care to share, we'd love to hear. 00:00:55.256 --> 00:00:55.946 A:middle Thank you. 00:00:55.946 --> 00:00:56.636 A:middle Thank you, Scott. 00:00:56.846 --> 00:01:00.576 A:middle So my my life is completely 00:01:00.646 --> 00:01:02.856 A:middle different than probably like many 00:01:02.856 --> 00:01:04.556 A:middle of the students who have here. 00:01:04.956 --> 00:01:08.156 A:middle I came from, I am an immigrant from India. 00:01:08.696 --> 00:01:11.436 A:middle So all my education was in India. 00:01:11.696 --> 00:01:16.496 A:middle So my education up to tenth grade was 00:01:16.496 --> 00:01:20.196 A:middle in my language and my language. 00:01:20.526 --> 00:01:24.176 A:middle And then the but the problem over there is old. 00:01:24.246 --> 00:01:25.436 A:middle It's a good thing over there, 00:01:25.506 --> 00:01:28.236 A:middle is once you start your fifth grade, 00:01:28.306 --> 00:01:30.206 A:middle you have to learn three languages, 00:01:30.406 --> 00:01:32.876 A:middle your native language, English 00:01:32.876 --> 00:01:34.696 A:middle and Hindi is the national language. 00:01:34.806 --> 00:01:38.356 A:middle So, so we are learning English from fifth grade onwards, 00:01:38.606 --> 00:01:39.836 A:middle but up to tenth grade, 00:01:39.916 --> 00:01:43.536 A:middle my main medium of instruction was my weight, 00:01:43.616 --> 00:01:44.726 A:middle which is called Malayalam. 00:01:45.226 --> 00:01:47.676 A:middle After tenth grade, 11th grade onwards, 00:01:47.746 --> 00:01:49.396 A:middle everything switched to English. 00:01:49.606 --> 00:01:52.736 A:middle So nothing is no more your language, anything? 00:01:52.816 --> 00:01:54.216 A:middle Anything. Everything is English. 00:01:54.636 --> 00:01:57.406 A:middle So after 12th grade, That's the biggest. 00:01:57.706 --> 00:01:59.776 A:middle And when I was in 11th and 12th, 00:02:00.056 --> 00:02:03.526 A:middle it was part of a call it like like our Wiley call it. 00:02:04.116 --> 00:02:08.586 A:middle And that's the time you decide what direction you want to go. 00:02:08.816 --> 00:02:14.756 A:middle So I I want to be in the medical profession and in my country. 00:02:15.086 --> 00:02:17.146 A:middle We have to apply. 00:02:17.246 --> 00:02:21.336 A:middle We have a entrance test for all the health care tests 00:02:21.336 --> 00:02:22.506 A:middle in one test. 00:02:22.796 --> 00:02:25.776 A:middle So it goes with medicine, 00:02:25.846 --> 00:02:29.996 A:middle nursing, pharmacy, and some other courses. 00:02:30.796 --> 00:02:32.426 A:middle So I got nursing. 00:02:32.986 --> 00:02:36.126 A:middle So I started my nursing program, 00:02:36.406 --> 00:02:40.016 A:middle a BSN program after the 12th grade in, 00:02:40.836 --> 00:02:43.636 A:middle in the capital city of India in depth. 00:02:44.126 --> 00:02:45.816 A:middle So that's good. 00:02:46.416 --> 00:02:47.526 A:middle So let me ask this question. 00:02:47.616 --> 00:02:50.556 A:middle So how are you prepared in high-school? 00:02:50.646 --> 00:02:55.986 A:middle Teach you about the basics of pharmacy and all these. 00:02:57.426 --> 00:02:59.176 A:middle Yeah, So in our high school, 00:02:59.586 --> 00:03:02.786 A:middle everyone needs to have this is what our language 00:03:02.786 --> 00:03:04.056 A:middle and subjects look like. 00:03:04.626 --> 00:03:06.996 A:middle It's a common curriculum for everybody. 00:03:08.266 --> 00:03:10.956 A:middle My our native language, English, 00:03:11.166 --> 00:03:12.726 A:middle Hindi, that's there. 00:03:13.186 --> 00:03:14.256 A:middle Then history. 00:03:14.616 --> 00:03:17.106 A:middle In that history, it's the world history, 00:03:17.606 --> 00:03:21.806 A:middle political science, whatever be it, uh, you know, 00:03:22.036 --> 00:03:26.916 A:middle the different they have in detail than geography, 00:03:27.366 --> 00:03:32.036 A:middle than physics, chemistry, and biology and mathematics. 00:03:32.676 --> 00:03:35.096 A:middle So everyone will do this. 00:03:35.596 --> 00:03:38.166 A:middle But when you go to 11th grade and 12th grade, 00:03:38.406 --> 00:03:41.296 A:middle if you like to go in medical profession, 00:03:41.656 --> 00:03:43.506 A:middle you don't need to take Math, 00:03:44.226 --> 00:03:46.526 A:middle but you must have biology, 00:03:48.016 --> 00:03:51.726 A:middle physics and chemistry, English, and another language. 00:03:52.356 --> 00:03:55.106 A:middle But if you want to go in both directions, 00:03:55.196 --> 00:04:00.576 A:middle if you want to go in Engineering direction and the health side, 00:04:00.716 --> 00:04:04.056 A:middle the medical directions, then you can also take math 00:04:04.256 --> 00:04:05.286 A:middle and then after that, 00:04:05.376 --> 00:04:08.226 A:middle you can decide everything has been sex. 00:04:08.346 --> 00:04:10.976 A:middle I'm engineering has a different set of exams, 00:04:11.146 --> 00:04:14.096 A:middle and medical professions have a different set of exams. 00:04:14.646 --> 00:04:18.046 A:middle So in high school they prepare you and then plus 11th 00:04:18.046 --> 00:04:19.896 A:middle and 12th grade, they prepare you. 00:04:20.326 --> 00:04:23.776 A:middle Most kids, when they added 11th and 12th grade, 00:04:23.846 --> 00:04:29.136 A:middle they will also go for what do you call like, 00:04:29.306 --> 00:04:33.026 A:middle I wouldn't say tutoring, but quoting, 00:04:33.146 --> 00:04:35.436 A:middle quoting for this endpoint sex, 00:04:35.506 --> 00:04:39.126 A:middle I'm so they're ready by the time they graduate from top gate. 00:04:40.336 --> 00:04:41.776 A:middle What does your day look like? 00:04:41.926 --> 00:04:43.426 A:middle You go to school from a certain time 00:04:43.426 --> 00:04:44.746 A:middle and then you go to consumer? 00:04:45.016 --> 00:04:45.576 A:middle Yes. 00:04:45.646 --> 00:04:47.686 A:middle So slow. 00:04:48.386 --> 00:04:50.546 A:middle Usually tend to 4 PM, 00:04:51.026 --> 00:04:53.586 A:middle 10:00 AM to 04:00 PM is your regular school. 00:04:54.226 --> 00:04:58.486 A:middle And then you may have to bring you may have coating. 00:04:58.576 --> 00:05:01.356 A:middle And sometimes our quoting is in Saturday I 00:05:01.526 --> 00:05:04.316 A:middle had either Mumbai quoting about Saturdays seven AM. 00:05:05.306 --> 00:05:11.106 A:middle So, and Sunday you go to bed or whatever religion you follow. 00:05:11.436 --> 00:05:15.326 A:middle So pretty much reading how much free time. 00:05:15.996 --> 00:05:18.976 A:middle But you are always your student, 00:05:19.046 --> 00:05:20.666 A:middle your friends are also with the, 00:05:20.806 --> 00:05:23.076 A:middle most of your friends are with you in this journey. 00:05:23.146 --> 00:05:24.946 A:middle So that's your entertainment, 00:05:25.146 --> 00:05:28.396 A:middle like doing academic work with your friends. 00:05:29.106 --> 00:05:33.616 A:middle So many of us are going far like you, 00:05:33.806 --> 00:05:36.176 A:middle it's not you have to take buses. 00:05:36.246 --> 00:05:40.036 A:middle So I started from my house like around 08:00 AM. 00:05:40.106 --> 00:05:44.346 A:middle I reached my school or college like 930 AM. 00:05:44.966 --> 00:05:48.696 A:middle So that was up to my ninth grade education. 00:05:49.346 --> 00:05:52.806 A:middle Now, my nursing is completely different story. 00:05:53.286 --> 00:05:55.606 A:middle So at this time that there's no dating, 00:05:55.676 --> 00:05:58.116 A:middle there's low hanging out with friends. 00:05:58.636 --> 00:06:01.226 A:middle Hanging out, friends is allowed. 00:06:01.406 --> 00:06:03.976 A:middle Dating was reading, even know dating 00:06:03.976 --> 00:06:06.536 A:middle at that is now things are different. 00:06:06.606 --> 00:06:09.216 A:middle Like in this time of day, 00:06:10.106 --> 00:06:13.376 A:middle people have different way of lifestyle. 00:06:13.446 --> 00:06:16.426 A:middle But in my time when I'm talking about nineties, 00:06:16.516 --> 00:06:19.196 A:middle early nineties and late eighties. 00:06:20.516 --> 00:06:23.266 A:middle Vivo not allowed to do the dating or anything 00:06:23.476 --> 00:06:27.996 A:middle like our parents or we will have the consequences. 00:06:30.146 --> 00:06:32.426 A:middle Question for a couple of questions. 00:06:32.646 --> 00:06:35.386 A:middle How number 1, you said that it was in tenth grade 00:06:35.386 --> 00:06:38.206 A:middle that the transition to fully English. 00:06:38.306 --> 00:06:40.386 A:middle So one question about what was that transition 00:06:40.386 --> 00:06:41.606 A:middle like now, my second question, 00:06:41.706 --> 00:06:43.866 A:middle how was it that you came to the determination 00:06:44.076 --> 00:06:45.516 A:middle that you wanted to to follow 00:06:45.646 --> 00:06:49.566 A:middle through and actually study within the health sciences. 00:06:49.676 --> 00:06:51.836 A:middle Is there any background of that in your family or did you 00:06:51.906 --> 00:06:54.116 A:middle just have an interest by way of the subjects you are studying? 00:06:54.756 --> 00:06:55.246 A:middle Though? 00:06:55.706 --> 00:06:58.076 A:middle So the first question, the transition. 00:06:58.546 --> 00:07:01.006 A:middle The transition was card, 00:07:01.206 --> 00:07:05.146 A:middle even though we know the non weights from fifth grade 00:07:05.146 --> 00:07:08.006 A:middle to be had everything but transition, 00:07:08.076 --> 00:07:09.676 A:middle like all of a sudden, 00:07:09.806 --> 00:07:11.776 A:middle learning biology and English, 00:07:11.986 --> 00:07:14.206 A:middle and physics and chemistry and English was really hard. 00:07:14.586 --> 00:07:18.086 A:middle So again, as I told you before, 00:07:18.496 --> 00:07:23.746 A:middle I had I had tutor service for physics and chemistry, biology. 00:07:24.026 --> 00:07:27.296 A:middle You what card you you walk with your friends. 00:07:27.426 --> 00:07:29.426 A:middle That's where your friends come in handy. 00:07:29.786 --> 00:07:33.276 A:middle We work as a group BY study as a group. 00:07:33.716 --> 00:07:36.636 A:middle And, and the teachers also like, you know, 00:07:36.706 --> 00:07:40.536 A:middle they even they T2, they explain everything. 00:07:40.626 --> 00:07:43.596 A:middle B will have detailed notes and then we 00:07:43.676 --> 00:07:47.086 A:middle share the notes from the students, from classmates. 00:07:47.416 --> 00:07:52.616 A:middle And then B have then we will go for extra tuition. 00:07:53.126 --> 00:07:55.086 A:middle That's how we transition. 00:07:55.996 --> 00:07:58.176 A:middle So how did you come to pick that high-school? 00:07:59.066 --> 00:08:00.016 A:middle How what it is? 00:08:00.016 --> 00:08:00.476 A:middle I'm sorry. 00:08:00.676 --> 00:08:03.876 A:middle How did you come to pick that high school or high school also, 00:08:03.946 --> 00:08:07.686 A:middle do you have to advocate exam were to score? 00:08:08.026 --> 00:08:11.076 A:middle From my elementary school was up to seventh grade 00:08:11.076 --> 00:08:13.266 A:middle and our high school starts from 83. 00:08:13.716 --> 00:08:17.006 A:middle So you could go in my country, 00:08:17.076 --> 00:08:18.276 A:middle you could go anywhere. 00:08:18.376 --> 00:08:20.336 A:middle It's not legion bound. 00:08:20.826 --> 00:08:23.936 A:middle So my I'm the youngest of eight, 00:08:24.136 --> 00:08:26.686 A:middle so my sisters were already my sisters 00:08:26.686 --> 00:08:29.036 A:middle and brothers already went through the education. 00:08:29.106 --> 00:08:32.616 A:middle So they knew which high school is the best 00:08:32.616 --> 00:08:34.306 A:middle and based on my level. 00:08:34.376 --> 00:08:36.036 A:middle So they asked me, 00:08:36.116 --> 00:08:38.806 A:middle they helped me to go a particular school 00:08:38.806 --> 00:08:41.066 A:middle which had a pretty high standard. 00:08:41.406 --> 00:08:46.406 A:middle And the reason why I got I had good grades in seventh grade. 00:08:46.546 --> 00:08:47.946 A:middle So they will look at the grades 00:08:47.946 --> 00:08:50.826 A:middle and they will see whether they will like me over there. 00:08:52.326 --> 00:08:56.976 A:middle Yeah, it's amazing how how the setup the setup sounds. 00:08:57.046 --> 00:08:58.716 A:middle So much like Korea and Japan. 00:08:59.456 --> 00:08:59.946 A:middle Yes. 00:09:00.106 --> 00:09:03.206 A:middle What are those things where if you don't get it from your kid, 00:09:03.276 --> 00:09:04.516 A:middle you're in the wrong high school 00:09:04.516 --> 00:09:06.036 A:middle and then how do you get into the rock, right? 00:09:06.106 --> 00:09:12.286 A:middle College. And a lot of these obstacles 00:09:12.406 --> 00:09:16.436 A:middle or you have to get in the door early just 00:09:16.436 --> 00:09:19.226 A:middle because of it's a whole sort of process, right? 00:09:19.776 --> 00:09:24.656 A:middle Yeah. But I will also say if even if you get into any school, 00:09:25.066 --> 00:09:27.986 A:middle if you are determined you have right direction, 00:09:28.196 --> 00:09:29.356 A:middle That's the most important thing. 00:09:29.626 --> 00:09:31.566 A:middle If you have right direction, 00:09:31.646 --> 00:09:33.106 A:middle you could get any way. 00:09:34.046 --> 00:09:36.466 A:middle But if you have no one to guide you, 00:09:36.796 --> 00:09:38.416 A:middle then you probably will be lost. 00:09:38.506 --> 00:09:41.876 A:middle But that is very uncommon, 00:09:42.306 --> 00:09:45.336 A:middle like lack of guidance and most of the parents, 00:09:45.546 --> 00:09:48.776 A:middle even the parents who are not educated, 00:09:48.846 --> 00:09:50.066 A:middle they are very well aware 00:09:50.066 --> 00:09:53.846 A:middle of the educational path of their children. 00:09:54.586 --> 00:09:57.756 A:middle So yeah, I'd be also have community 00:09:57.846 --> 00:10:00.936 A:middle like religious community like so people with high eater. 00:10:01.576 --> 00:10:06.636 A:middle And so the parents know and the kids already know what they want 00:10:06.636 --> 00:10:08.236 A:middle and it's very rare, 00:10:08.366 --> 00:10:10.076 A:middle but they don't have any. 00:10:12.336 --> 00:10:15.516 A:middle So what was your experience like when you started college? 00:10:16.656 --> 00:10:20.036 A:middle So my 11th and 12th grade, 00:10:20.286 --> 00:10:24.096 A:middle I heard my friends from my own previous schools were there. 00:10:24.666 --> 00:10:27.586 A:middle And in the English language, 00:10:27.806 --> 00:10:29.596 A:middle which was the hardest problem. 00:10:29.956 --> 00:10:31.486 A:middle But you know, what? 00:10:31.706 --> 00:10:33.306 A:middle I was only 16 years old. 00:10:33.476 --> 00:10:35.476 A:middle You know, you get strengths immediately. 00:10:35.546 --> 00:10:37.036 A:middle You start talking to people 00:10:37.036 --> 00:10:40.076 A:middle and then you don't know any other life. 00:10:40.146 --> 00:10:41.906 A:middle That's all you have, you know. 00:10:41.976 --> 00:10:45.246 A:middle So you have to get into the mode of learning things faster. 00:10:45.636 --> 00:10:48.436 A:middle So you study harder than you used to study 00:10:48.506 --> 00:10:53.266 A:middle before and get help from anyone If you don't know and, 00:10:53.386 --> 00:10:55.236 A:middle uh, you know, as I told you, I have. 00:10:55.736 --> 00:10:57.536 A:middle My siblings older than me, 00:10:57.606 --> 00:10:59.886 A:middle so they helped and you work hard. 00:11:00.316 --> 00:11:02.576 A:middle And after your first test, 00:11:02.646 --> 00:11:04.376 A:middle you will know whether you are in right track 00:11:04.376 --> 00:11:06.036 A:middle or you need more extra help, 00:11:06.876 --> 00:11:07.936 A:middle and then you take it there. 00:11:08.686 --> 00:11:12.676 A:middle So and then after 12th grade, 00:11:12.746 --> 00:11:16.426 A:middle that's when you are going in different professional courses? 00:11:17.276 --> 00:11:17.566 A:middle Sure. 00:11:18.366 --> 00:11:20.136 A:middle And for those different professional courses, 00:11:20.306 --> 00:11:23.566 A:middle is that under happening at a different school? 00:11:23.686 --> 00:11:24.266 A:middle Yes. 00:11:24.376 --> 00:11:24.576 A:middle Oh, yeah. 00:11:24.806 --> 00:11:27.566 A:middle It's completely different because I believe 00:11:27.846 --> 00:11:30.426 A:middle previously my 11th grade and there is 00:11:30.426 --> 00:11:31.916 A:middle like our Wiley College System, 00:11:32.706 --> 00:11:36.686 A:middle you how different courses up to 12th grade. 00:11:36.786 --> 00:11:39.086 A:middle And then so for example, 00:11:39.176 --> 00:11:42.836 A:middle for medical profession back in there, what we needed, 00:11:43.126 --> 00:11:46.606 A:middle you need to pass the entrance exam 00:11:46.746 --> 00:11:51.406 A:middle like back in the day when I was entering for that entrance exam, 00:11:51.916 --> 00:11:55.216 A:middle five like 500 thousand kids will apply for it 00:11:55.216 --> 00:11:57.246 A:middle and they do that entrance exam. 00:11:57.986 --> 00:12:00.746 A:middle There is only 600 seats available for medicine. 00:12:01.386 --> 00:12:04.796 A:middle So then, yeah, it's been highly competitive, 00:12:04.876 --> 00:12:06.316 A:middle but now there are more cases, 00:12:06.406 --> 00:12:07.916 A:middle more more seats available. 00:12:08.006 --> 00:12:11.076 A:middle It's much my nephews and nieces are doctors. 00:12:11.146 --> 00:12:15.596 A:middle Their opportunities are much wider than what I had. 00:12:16.196 --> 00:12:18.676 A:middle So what I did concurrently, 00:12:18.776 --> 00:12:22.766 A:middle you could also practice for even for BFS 00:12:22.766 --> 00:12:24.326 A:middle and we have entrance exam. 00:12:24.676 --> 00:12:28.306 A:middle So what I did in the US, 00:12:28.376 --> 00:12:32.936 A:middle our capital daily, we have a host of college called commodity 00:12:32.936 --> 00:12:34.606 A:middle and College of Nursing. 00:12:34.676 --> 00:12:38.836 A:middle That is a central government WHO call it like our, 00:12:38.976 --> 00:12:41.436 A:middle like our, similar to our federal government. 00:12:41.506 --> 00:12:44.576 A:middle If they run, I call it and bad call it was like that. 00:12:44.646 --> 00:12:46.106 A:middle And it's only for nursing. 00:12:46.316 --> 00:12:50.456 A:middle Nursing like from BSN, masters, and doctorate. 00:12:51.066 --> 00:12:54.336 A:middle So I went there for their entrance exam. 00:12:54.706 --> 00:12:57.846 A:middle Laterally, there was only 1000 people there when I 00:12:58.216 --> 00:13:02.476 A:middle went for the entrance and the seating was 45. 00:13:02.606 --> 00:13:03.796 A:middle The first 45. 00:13:04.216 --> 00:13:05.866 A:middle So I got in there. 00:13:06.636 --> 00:13:07.416 A:middle And over. 00:13:07.646 --> 00:13:12.576 A:middle In India, You always have seats for the soap seats, 00:13:12.716 --> 00:13:15.136 A:middle reserved seats for minority, 00:13:15.946 --> 00:13:18.086 A:middle reserved seats for foreigners 00:13:18.086 --> 00:13:20.106 A:middle because it was a central government. 00:13:20.176 --> 00:13:23.756 A:middle All it, they also hired some salvation 00:13:23.756 --> 00:13:25.116 A:middle for international students. 00:13:25.246 --> 00:13:26.996 A:middle So pretty much in general, 00:13:27.106 --> 00:13:30.526 A:middle a seat, 35 students will get out of 45. 00:13:30.626 --> 00:13:32.316 A:middle So luckily I caught him. 00:13:32.966 --> 00:13:37.676 A:middle So what was it like to walk in and look up your name? 00:13:37.746 --> 00:13:39.306 A:middle I mean, what's that experience? 00:13:39.376 --> 00:13:39.606 A:middle Like? 00:13:39.696 --> 00:13:40.866 A:middle Oh my God. 00:13:41.126 --> 00:13:46.176 A:middle I think my heart dropped when I see my name was number 31. 00:13:46.806 --> 00:13:50.166 A:middle So I didn't know whether I cried. 00:13:50.166 --> 00:13:50.646 A:middle I loved. 00:13:51.246 --> 00:13:54.036 A:middle I don't know what I did but I was like, 00:13:54.106 --> 00:13:59.426 A:middle Oh my God, I didn't people usually wait another year. 00:13:59.766 --> 00:14:01.346 A:middle I didn't have to do that. 00:14:01.476 --> 00:14:04.306 A:middle I just went in there guarding. 00:14:04.506 --> 00:14:06.646 A:middle That was unbelievable. 00:14:07.136 --> 00:14:11.626 A:middle And again, I am I'm from South and South 00:14:11.626 --> 00:14:14.106 A:middle and North India is completely two different, 00:14:14.296 --> 00:14:16.086 A:middle like a country almost have data. 00:14:16.406 --> 00:14:17.986 A:middle So I'm coming from south, 00:14:18.246 --> 00:14:22.426 A:middle going to note, even though I know the long way to Hindi, 00:14:22.526 --> 00:14:26.576 A:middle I don't know how to speak and I have to pick up all that, 00:14:27.046 --> 00:14:29.596 A:middle but I was so excited because that call it wants one 00:14:29.596 --> 00:14:31.516 A:middle of the best college in the country. 00:14:31.706 --> 00:14:33.406 A:middle So that's why I was so happy. 00:14:34.496 --> 00:14:37.176 A:middle I remember my my mother had the same experience 00:14:37.176 --> 00:14:39.206 A:middle where she she went to go 00:14:39.276 --> 00:14:43.796 A:middle and look at her exam scores and she passed brushing, 00:14:43.906 --> 00:14:45.776 A:middle she got it here. 00:14:45.846 --> 00:14:48.106 A:middle Her girlfriends went to go and celebrate. 00:14:48.246 --> 00:14:50.336 A:middle My grandmother, she's just waiting 00:14:50.336 --> 00:14:52.596 A:middle for she thought maybe she committed suicide. 00:14:53.076 --> 00:14:55.266 A:middle Because, you know, that's Japan. 00:14:55.346 --> 00:14:58.366 A:middle Like these kids, they don't make it and they give us a bridge. 00:14:58.676 --> 00:15:00.036 A:middle Right. 00:15:01.706 --> 00:15:04.506 A:middle So then what happened once you got into the nursing program? 00:15:05.116 --> 00:15:10.596 A:middle So when I went to nursing program is a completely 00:15:10.596 --> 00:15:12.516 A:middle different set of ballgame now. 00:15:13.056 --> 00:15:15.516 A:middle So nothing similar to this country. 00:15:16.156 --> 00:15:19.666 A:middle So we have a big canvas in that campus. 00:15:19.776 --> 00:15:21.136 A:middle We have hostile system. 00:15:21.396 --> 00:15:23.496 A:middle That means it is mandatory. 00:15:23.956 --> 00:15:27.226 A:middle It's mandatory for everyone who is admitted 00:15:27.226 --> 00:15:30.016 A:middle in the program stay in that host. 00:15:31.036 --> 00:15:32.886 A:middle And that means at that time, 00:15:33.116 --> 00:15:37.506 A:middle I think it's only for unmarried women. 00:15:37.606 --> 00:15:38.566 A:middle I'm not sure. 00:15:38.566 --> 00:15:39.696 A:middle Now, things change. 00:15:40.256 --> 00:15:44.086 A:middle So the BSN is for I believe it was only for unmarried women. 00:15:44.206 --> 00:15:46.006 A:middle I may be wrong in that section, 00:15:46.846 --> 00:15:50.976 A:middle but so you stay in that postal right 00:15:51.126 --> 00:15:55.046 A:middle across is your call it that means you 00:15:55.046 --> 00:15:58.006 A:middle like in from our quality. 00:15:58.206 --> 00:16:00.826 A:middle If I talk about my nursing office 00:16:00.826 --> 00:16:02.606 A:middle and going to the eight cells, 00:16:02.676 --> 00:16:04.176 A:middle the third floor like that. 00:16:04.276 --> 00:16:06.496 A:middle So really distance, it's very close. 00:16:06.876 --> 00:16:11.196 A:middle All our teachers, how quarter's over there, like flat. 00:16:12.016 --> 00:16:14.926 A:middle So they live also inside the canvas. 00:16:15.146 --> 00:16:17.076 A:middle So it's a big campus. 00:16:17.076 --> 00:16:18.036 A:middle Everyone is there. 00:16:18.856 --> 00:16:20.496 A:middle So that's a first step. 00:16:21.216 --> 00:16:22.936 A:middle Now, in first semester, 00:16:23.046 --> 00:16:24.976 A:middle first year, it's a four-year system. 00:16:25.106 --> 00:16:27.046 A:middle It's a BSN program for the secondary, 00:16:27.216 --> 00:16:30.736 A:middle 30 or 40 or so the first year when you live in the hostel, 00:16:30.806 --> 00:16:32.456 A:middle you have one roommate. 00:16:33.096 --> 00:16:36.976 A:middle But everything is free except I 00:16:37.046 --> 00:16:41.516 A:middle believe the tuition at that time was 200 Indian rupees Monday. 00:16:42.006 --> 00:16:44.046 A:middle Everything else, even you don't even have 00:16:44.046 --> 00:16:46.106 A:middle to do the laundry, they recombine. 00:16:46.176 --> 00:16:48.686 A:middle There was people will come and do your laundry 00:16:49.616 --> 00:16:51.536 A:middle and food and accommodation. 00:16:51.636 --> 00:16:52.796 A:middle Everything was free. 00:16:52.976 --> 00:16:54.276 A:middle Only the tuition, very, 00:16:54.346 --> 00:16:58.816 A:middle very negligible amount to wonder in Denmark at that time. 00:16:59.456 --> 00:17:01.176 A:middle So difficult. 00:17:01.376 --> 00:17:04.206 A:middle That was just a different level than what you did in high school 00:17:04.206 --> 00:17:05.936 A:middle or completely different? 00:17:06.006 --> 00:17:07.136 A:middle Completely different. 00:17:07.206 --> 00:17:08.576 A:middle It is difficult. 00:17:08.706 --> 00:17:10.336 A:middle You are learning about nursing, 00:17:10.606 --> 00:17:13.706 A:middle which I didn't have any clue about nursing. 00:17:13.776 --> 00:17:17.276 A:middle Honestly, I didn't have anyone in my family was a nurse. 00:17:17.436 --> 00:17:20.466 A:middle And but luckily, again, 00:17:20.606 --> 00:17:23.206 A:middle there were many students from the south there. 00:17:23.546 --> 00:17:26.656 A:middle So you have help from your own friends. 00:17:27.716 --> 00:17:32.006 A:middle And the class of the time is completely different. 00:17:32.076 --> 00:17:35.946 A:middle Again, from eight AM to five o'clock, we have cuts. 00:17:36.736 --> 00:17:38.126 A:middle So the first semesters, 00:17:38.606 --> 00:17:40.226 A:middle eight AM to five o'clock. 00:17:40.776 --> 00:17:43.336 A:middle Once a week, you will go to clinicals. 00:17:44.086 --> 00:17:47.776 A:middle And secondly, a 34 theories. 00:17:47.986 --> 00:17:51.356 A:middle Every single day you go to clinic hospital 00:17:52.066 --> 00:17:54.226 A:middle from 07:00 AM to 01:00 PM. 00:17:55.146 --> 00:17:57.436 A:middle You come back, go to hostile, 00:17:58.026 --> 00:18:00.606 A:middle eat lunch, change your quotes, 00:18:01.346 --> 00:18:03.406 A:middle and then come back to the classroom 00:18:03.406 --> 00:18:09.256 A:middle at 2325 o'clock every day and Saturdays half-baked. 00:18:09.546 --> 00:18:10.096 A:middle That's it. 00:18:10.566 --> 00:18:13.236 A:middle By Saturday afternoon on Sundays. 00:18:13.306 --> 00:18:14.336 A:middle The only effect. 00:18:15.206 --> 00:18:19.856 A:middle And we also have since everyone is in the hostel, 00:18:20.466 --> 00:18:22.916 A:middle we also have a lot of group work other 00:18:23.006 --> 00:18:25.636 A:middle than our individual work, like projects. 00:18:25.706 --> 00:18:28.536 A:middle We have a lot of group projects also be hard to do. 00:18:28.976 --> 00:18:33.996 A:middle But it sounds like a really rigorous gives you a very 00:18:33.996 --> 00:18:34.786 A:middle rigorous program, 00:18:35.066 --> 00:18:37.386 A:middle very liveness as you were working 00:18:37.386 --> 00:18:38.506 A:middle through the program preferred. 00:18:38.596 --> 00:18:43.166 A:middle Did you have any sense that you will be moving 00:18:43.166 --> 00:18:44.876 A:middle to the United States? 00:18:45.386 --> 00:18:47.696 A:middle No. I had no clue. 00:18:47.776 --> 00:18:51.306 A:middle My goal, my goal was to be a professor 00:18:51.746 --> 00:18:54.476 A:middle in nursing in my state, 00:18:54.546 --> 00:18:56.216 A:middle back in my sum, 00:18:56.446 --> 00:18:58.056 A:middle sorry, my state name is Kayla. 00:18:58.346 --> 00:19:00.466 A:middle I wanted to be I want to do that. 00:19:00.966 --> 00:19:03.166 A:middle So what I did after 40 years, 00:19:03.846 --> 00:19:05.676 A:middle you have to have two years 00:19:05.676 --> 00:19:08.696 A:middle of experience before you can go to masters. 00:19:08.776 --> 00:19:11.826 A:middle It's mandatory that you need to have two years of experience, 00:19:11.826 --> 00:19:13.536 A:middle like clinical experience. 00:19:13.926 --> 00:19:17.796 A:middle So I went to one of the top hospitals in Delhi. 00:19:18.656 --> 00:19:22.446 A:middle It's called escorts Heart Institute and preserved center. 00:19:22.756 --> 00:19:26.146 A:middle And it's modeled after American hospitals. 00:19:26.346 --> 00:19:29.446 A:middle So via use to American way 00:19:29.446 --> 00:19:31.936 A:middle of like all the equipments and stuff. 00:19:32.556 --> 00:19:36.156 A:middle So I had two years of my clinical experience. 00:19:36.426 --> 00:19:39.236 A:middle Then I went back for us to teach over there. 00:19:39.326 --> 00:19:41.706 A:middle Like I said, Professor, of course we need the masters. 00:19:42.116 --> 00:19:46.116 A:middle So I went back to my college for master of nursing education. 00:19:46.526 --> 00:19:51.936 A:middle Now, the seating, it's only altogether 15 seats. 00:19:52.036 --> 00:19:56.406 A:middle You will get a year in that generally seats are only six 00:19:56.406 --> 00:19:56.756 A:middle of them. 00:19:57.556 --> 00:20:01.976 A:middle So again, I guarding and it's a two-year course. 00:20:02.776 --> 00:20:04.996 A:middle And again, this is like Monday 00:20:04.996 --> 00:20:07.126 A:middle through Saturday program full-time. 00:20:07.276 --> 00:20:09.276 A:middle You can not you won't be able to work. 00:20:10.016 --> 00:20:14.066 A:middle And I guess I completed two years of my master's, 00:20:15.096 --> 00:20:19.716 A:middle came back home with the plan of working in my state. 00:20:20.326 --> 00:20:25.766 A:middle By that time I realize that any government medical colleges 00:20:25.766 --> 00:20:26.906 A:middle like UCLA, 00:20:27.186 --> 00:20:29.776 A:middle and it's so hard to get a job. 00:20:30.426 --> 00:20:32.546 A:middle So I started working private jobs. 00:20:33.216 --> 00:20:38.526 A:middle And of course my husband came over there to meet my time 00:20:38.626 --> 00:20:40.476 A:middle of a big arrange my data. 00:20:40.716 --> 00:20:46.436 A:middle So within a month I got matting and then that's when, 00:20:46.506 --> 00:20:47.976 A:middle you know, that was the decision. 00:20:48.146 --> 00:20:51.886 A:middle Otherwise, I had no clue that I'm going to be here. 00:20:52.726 --> 00:20:54.986 A:middle So how did they arranged marriage work? 00:20:55.676 --> 00:20:58.436 A:middle So I think you will you, 00:20:58.506 --> 00:21:01.596 A:middle you will laugh how we did it in my time. 00:21:01.746 --> 00:21:03.076 A:middle It's different now. 00:21:03.146 --> 00:21:06.966 A:middle So again, we have different matrimonial website. 00:21:07.516 --> 00:21:09.926 A:middle Back in the day, there was no website. 00:21:10.416 --> 00:21:13.516 A:middle Be heavily depend upon the newspapers. 00:21:14.166 --> 00:21:16.806 A:middle So one of our like, you know, 00:21:16.876 --> 00:21:19.556 A:middle my my father passed away usually in India. 00:21:20.006 --> 00:21:22.666 A:middle At that time, your parents look for it. 00:21:22.806 --> 00:21:24.606 A:middle Or if your parents passed away, 00:21:24.696 --> 00:21:29.936 A:middle your older siblings very start looking for your good MET. 00:21:30.166 --> 00:21:34.656 A:middle So my brother advertised in the newspaper for me and 00:21:34.976 --> 00:21:37.436 A:middle My husband's family was visiting India 00:21:38.036 --> 00:21:40.936 A:middle and my husband grew up here from, 00:21:41.156 --> 00:21:42.846 A:middle he was here since two years old. 00:21:43.716 --> 00:21:46.186 A:middle So his parents were immigrants in seventies. 00:21:47.156 --> 00:21:49.936 A:middle So they came, they had the invention 00:21:49.936 --> 00:21:51.696 A:middle that they want someone from India. 00:21:51.986 --> 00:21:56.866 A:middle And he I heard is somehow he agreed. 00:21:56.996 --> 00:22:00.006 A:middle Okay. I will try and see whether I be like someone. 00:22:00.456 --> 00:22:02.446 A:middle The minute he said yes, 00:22:02.606 --> 00:22:09.946 A:middle his parents book a ticket to your friends also. 00:22:10.336 --> 00:22:12.706 A:middle They told me that their parents are over. 00:22:12.776 --> 00:22:17.716 A:middle They wanted to take the trip with the survey came. 00:22:18.096 --> 00:22:18.626 A:middle So. 00:22:19.326 --> 00:22:20.576 A:middle And at that time, 00:22:20.676 --> 00:22:24.446 A:middle my brother advertised in the newspaper 00:22:25.086 --> 00:22:28.286 A:middle and my husband's father called me, call. 00:22:28.666 --> 00:22:29.276 A:middle My brother. 00:22:29.736 --> 00:22:31.406 A:middle And my brother said, you know, 00:22:31.476 --> 00:22:33.476 A:middle we are not looking for someone who grew up there 00:22:33.746 --> 00:22:36.036 A:middle because the culture is so different bead on one. 00:22:36.656 --> 00:22:39.906 A:middle But but his father was so persistent. 00:22:39.976 --> 00:22:43.006 A:middle He said, can be at least come to your house, 00:22:43.086 --> 00:22:45.606 A:middle be going somewhere and it's on the way. 00:22:46.046 --> 00:22:48.376 A:middle Let us come. 00:22:48.376 --> 00:22:49.416 A:middle And they came. 00:22:49.806 --> 00:22:51.506 A:middle And I was like, 00:22:51.616 --> 00:22:54.206 A:middle there's no way this guy's going to like me. 00:22:54.316 --> 00:22:56.596 A:middle There's no way I'm going to like this guy. 00:22:57.056 --> 00:22:59.856 A:middle So when he came, I started talking. 00:23:00.006 --> 00:23:03.766 A:middle We were talking and we talk like 45 minutes, 00:23:03.866 --> 00:23:05.806 A:middle which the never I never did 00:23:05.806 --> 00:23:08.266 A:middle to any other guys who came to my house. 00:23:08.876 --> 00:23:11.546 A:middle So and then be found out that 00:23:11.986 --> 00:23:16.776 A:middle their family is like one-off our close relatives, family member. 00:23:16.846 --> 00:23:17.906 A:middle They are the family members. 00:23:17.976 --> 00:23:20.106 A:middle So he knew through them. 00:23:21.186 --> 00:23:23.886 A:middle So then the next day, 00:23:24.076 --> 00:23:26.836 A:middle everyone from that family came and they said, 00:23:26.906 --> 00:23:28.766 A:middle you know, are these people we know them. 00:23:29.206 --> 00:23:31.326 A:middle Both family said We know each other. 00:23:31.386 --> 00:23:32.376 A:middle It is okay. 00:23:32.446 --> 00:23:35.526 A:middle They are going to be five and fitting 00:23:35.606 --> 00:23:40.136 A:middle few base they fix them are aging two weeks I got married. 00:23:42.456 --> 00:23:45.736 A:middle And it's been 21 is scored. 00:23:46.086 --> 00:23:47.206 A:middle Oh my goodness. 00:23:47.296 --> 00:23:51.436 A:middle Wow. That's such an incredible, incredible story preferred. 00:23:51.536 --> 00:23:53.436 A:middle So, so two weeks later you were 00:23:53.516 --> 00:23:56.386 A:middle married and then how long before you move to the United States? 00:23:56.616 --> 00:23:58.806 A:middle So after I got married, 00:23:58.896 --> 00:24:05.416 A:middle the paperwork took one near and to add more misery into that. 00:24:06.036 --> 00:24:10.336 A:middle The day I was in Chennai to get my visa. 00:24:11.166 --> 00:24:14.406 A:middle That's the day 9, 11 happened. 00:24:15.326 --> 00:24:17.866 A:middle So the embassy is closed 00:24:18.536 --> 00:24:22.806 A:middle and they said they're going do indefinitely calls for a while. 00:24:22.906 --> 00:24:24.656 A:middle So I was like so devastated. 00:24:25.266 --> 00:24:28.156 A:middle But luckily, one day I decided I stayed in 00:24:28.306 --> 00:24:32.096 A:middle that city because I'm I'm in now another state 00:24:32.096 --> 00:24:33.356 A:middle and I have to flow back. 00:24:33.776 --> 00:24:35.356 A:middle So I thought, You know what, 00:24:35.576 --> 00:24:38.286 A:middle I stayed couple more base on one day. 00:24:38.686 --> 00:24:41.736 A:middle Just decided like in our family and maybe just 00:24:41.806 --> 00:24:44.976 A:middle decided to go see in the embassy and see whether it's open. 00:24:45.666 --> 00:24:49.076 A:middle It both open and dating to announce it. 00:24:49.146 --> 00:24:50.406 A:middle They didn't publish it, 00:24:50.476 --> 00:24:51.406 A:middle but it was open. 00:24:51.736 --> 00:24:56.266 A:middle And they were only looking at the visas for the spouse visa, 00:24:56.506 --> 00:25:00.326 A:middle they will not be going they do turned everybody any other 00:25:00.406 --> 00:25:02.546 A:middle kind of beside x up to espouse we saw 00:25:02.546 --> 00:25:04.826 A:middle and they gave me the visa that day. 00:25:05.236 --> 00:25:11.366 A:middle And September 18, I flew from my country to here. 00:25:12.016 --> 00:25:16.766 A:middle You have no idea flying after 911 00:25:16.876 --> 00:25:19.236 A:middle from another country to this country. 00:25:19.376 --> 00:25:20.546 A:middle Oh my God. 00:25:21.166 --> 00:25:24.726 A:middle Anywhere BY had a stall be hard to checkout 00:25:24.726 --> 00:25:27.646 A:middle out all the bikes, open up, 00:25:27.846 --> 00:25:29.736 A:middle bags in front of all, 00:25:29.816 --> 00:25:33.986 A:middle every people and take out one by one piece 00:25:33.986 --> 00:25:36.636 A:middle of Soviet clothing's everything takeout. 00:25:36.766 --> 00:25:40.536 A:middle Show everyone, put it back and then get back into the plane. 00:25:40.636 --> 00:25:42.436 A:middle That's how I came. 00:25:42.696 --> 00:25:44.306 A:middle And when I came again, 00:25:44.456 --> 00:25:48.806 A:middle I had no clue that the family is not allowed in the airport. 00:25:48.936 --> 00:25:50.726 A:middle They were in a parking lot. 00:25:50.846 --> 00:25:55.496 A:middle C sub I had some in my father-in-law 00:25:55.496 --> 00:25:59.556 A:middle and my husband had some friends work in that flight. 00:25:59.726 --> 00:26:03.096 A:middle So they told me because I didn't even have a form, 00:26:03.406 --> 00:26:05.336 A:middle call my husband or anybody. 00:26:05.476 --> 00:26:07.996 A:middle I didn't think phases came with them. 00:26:08.306 --> 00:26:11.226 A:middle So bay call, they found out that my husband 00:26:11.226 --> 00:26:13.166 A:middle and the families in parking lots see. 00:26:14.326 --> 00:26:18.316 A:middle Somehow we took the shuttle event, 00:26:18.486 --> 00:26:19.616 A:middle enter the parking lot. 00:26:19.746 --> 00:26:23.236 A:middle See there my husband was there with a book airflow. 00:26:23.466 --> 00:26:25.616 A:middle That's how I met him. 00:26:27.916 --> 00:26:30.196 A:middle Wow, what an incredible jury. 00:26:30.196 --> 00:26:30.936 A:middle Oh my goodness. 00:26:31.096 --> 00:26:33.806 A:middle And the timing of that happened right after 9, 11, 00:26:33.876 --> 00:26:38.146 A:middle as you said, editor, whole other layer. 00:26:39.476 --> 00:26:40.066 A:middle Yeah. 00:26:42.616 --> 00:26:45.096 A:middle Sure. When you came to America, How's that transition? 00:26:45.806 --> 00:26:49.196 A:middle So again, we have a big Indian community. 00:26:49.616 --> 00:26:53.176 A:middle So, you know, for social part of it, 00:26:53.246 --> 00:26:54.156 A:middle I didn't have a problem. 00:26:54.826 --> 00:26:58.226 A:middle But again, now I have to start working. 00:26:58.666 --> 00:27:00.936 A:middle So the process of the Board 00:27:00.936 --> 00:27:02.866 A:middle of Registered Nursing, like, you know, 00:27:03.046 --> 00:27:06.696 A:middle you have to bring all your transcript first here and 00:27:06.776 --> 00:27:09.926 A:middle then the TypeScript have to be evaluated 00:27:09.926 --> 00:27:12.156 A:middle by the International Education, 00:27:12.286 --> 00:27:15.866 A:middle the other international times but devaluation. 00:27:16.466 --> 00:27:20.346 A:middle Then all that process it took for my y and 00:27:20.946 --> 00:27:27.446 A:middle my husband took me to a kaplan place till today. 00:27:27.766 --> 00:27:32.156 A:middle I have no idea exactly the places somewhere in Valois. 00:27:33.396 --> 00:27:36.726 A:middle But they taught me how to take the bus to over there. 00:27:37.346 --> 00:27:42.896 A:middle So every day I take the bus and I go over to the Kaplan Center. 00:27:43.486 --> 00:27:46.866 A:middle I be learned from there and I will only 00:27:46.866 --> 00:27:48.796 A:middle and my mother-in-law used 00:27:49.016 --> 00:27:52.656 A:middle to give me called sandwiches 00:27:52.656 --> 00:27:55.096 A:middle because I didn't know how to use the microwave, 00:27:55.206 --> 00:27:59.236 A:middle although there and I was embarrassed to ask people. 00:27:59.756 --> 00:28:02.856 A:middle You gave me called sandwiches and varied 00:28:02.856 --> 00:28:04.496 A:middle from there, I'll come back. 00:28:05.046 --> 00:28:08.486 A:middle And and my husband told me we had 00:28:08.536 --> 00:28:11.116 A:middle to do fingerprinting or live scan. 00:28:11.276 --> 00:28:14.216 A:middle I don't remember what we did in this is in 2001. 00:28:15.226 --> 00:28:18.276 A:middle But he said became too wildly correlates to do that. 00:28:18.516 --> 00:28:24.746 A:middle And that's the first my foot in the violet call it, I guess. 00:28:25.916 --> 00:28:29.486 A:middle And then in early part of 2002, 00:28:30.626 --> 00:28:34.046 A:middle I did my BY Alan and I pass the first time 00:28:34.046 --> 00:28:35.406 A:middle with a minimum postings. 00:28:36.356 --> 00:28:38.846 A:middle And so now I have a license. 00:28:39.906 --> 00:28:44.446 A:middle So did your Indeed Nursing much is transferred to the US 00:28:44.926 --> 00:28:50.066 A:middle or humbly designs for that was I didn't have to do much more 00:28:50.066 --> 00:28:51.436 A:middle than I told you the story. 00:28:51.536 --> 00:28:57.616 A:middle Like be hard to it's a four-year program and every day 00:28:57.646 --> 00:28:59.536 A:middle in clinicals and everything. 00:28:59.606 --> 00:29:02.816 A:middle So we do much more than what we do here 00:29:02.816 --> 00:29:04.336 A:middle because I know the nursing program, 00:29:04.406 --> 00:29:07.616 A:middle what we are doing here veto much more than that. 00:29:08.316 --> 00:29:13.306 A:middle So everything was 100% compatible, 00:29:13.376 --> 00:29:17.086 A:middle compliant or convertible bit the bottom registered nursing. 00:29:17.486 --> 00:29:20.556 A:middle So once you are eligible or what did you work? 00:29:21.466 --> 00:29:21.806 A:middle Okay. 00:29:21.876 --> 00:29:26.476 A:middle So so I got my license and luckily at that time, 00:29:26.556 --> 00:29:29.066 A:middle that was a huge nice thing. 00:29:29.066 --> 00:29:29.906 A:middle Short date. 00:29:30.116 --> 00:29:34.416 A:middle So I be my husband and his family lived in North Hollywood. 00:29:34.766 --> 00:29:38.036 A:middle So the closest hospital was wildly Presbyterian Hospital. 00:29:38.476 --> 00:29:40.796 A:middle So I went with my sister-in-law. 00:29:40.976 --> 00:29:43.176 A:middle She took me do they have a trap? 00:29:43.896 --> 00:29:48.516 A:middle So and then they asked me which area you want to work. 00:29:48.606 --> 00:29:52.146 A:middle So I always have a passion towards pediatric nursing 00:29:52.146 --> 00:29:54.316 A:middle because I took my master's, 00:29:54.446 --> 00:29:56.846 A:middle I specialized in the pediatric nursing 00:29:56.846 --> 00:29:59.156 A:middle and I work with children a lot. 00:29:59.586 --> 00:30:00.836 A:middle So I said periodic. 00:30:01.436 --> 00:30:05.126 A:middle And next thing I know she's calling someone 00:30:05.616 --> 00:30:09.016 A:middle and what she did is she called them my nasal 00:30:09.016 --> 00:30:10.356 A:middle of pediatric nursing. 00:30:10.946 --> 00:30:13.716 A:middle And he said he's ready to interview me right there. 00:30:14.346 --> 00:30:15.586 A:middle I heard, you know, 00:30:15.696 --> 00:30:17.076 A:middle I didn't prepare anything. 00:30:17.316 --> 00:30:19.996 A:middle And he asked me few constants. 00:30:20.286 --> 00:30:22.766 A:middle And then he he said Where do you want to work? 00:30:22.926 --> 00:30:24.686 A:middle I said I like to work in pediatric. 00:30:25.046 --> 00:30:27.886 A:middle He said Do you want to work in pediatric ICU? 00:30:28.246 --> 00:30:30.256 A:middle I said like, do you think I can book? 00:30:30.506 --> 00:30:32.626 A:middle He said, Yeah, you can work anywhere. 00:30:32.776 --> 00:30:33.556 A:middle I said Okay. 00:30:33.976 --> 00:30:38.776 A:middle So that's why they hired me for pediatric ICU 00:30:38.776 --> 00:30:40.416 A:middle in by the prospect of reinforcement. 00:30:42.326 --> 00:30:45.316 A:middle Well, what was the experience like when you started there? 00:30:45.446 --> 00:30:48.046 A:middle Was it was the ICU training different 00:30:48.046 --> 00:30:48.836 A:middle from what you'd have in 00:30:48.906 --> 00:30:51.206 A:middle your in your education or is it something you are prepared 00:30:51.206 --> 00:30:52.276 A:middle for that aspect of it? 00:30:52.556 --> 00:30:56.036 A:middle So remember I told you after my BSN, 00:30:56.176 --> 00:30:59.976 A:middle I worked two years in Heart Institute. 00:31:00.396 --> 00:31:03.606 A:middle That hospital was completely modeled like a maid. 00:31:03.676 --> 00:31:04.476 A:middle It can wait. 00:31:04.916 --> 00:31:07.156 A:middle And and I worked in there. 00:31:07.246 --> 00:31:08.416 A:middle I see like, you know, 00:31:08.546 --> 00:31:11.506 A:middle so I have expedience for adult patients. 00:31:11.576 --> 00:31:14.326 A:middle So all the equipments they used, 00:31:14.546 --> 00:31:16.726 A:middle I was used to it here like this. 00:31:16.946 --> 00:31:18.176 A:middle Well, 300 ventilator. 00:31:18.246 --> 00:31:19.066 A:middle I'm used to it. 00:31:19.066 --> 00:31:22.806 A:middle I knew although there there is no respiratory therapist. 00:31:22.886 --> 00:31:25.776 A:middle So the nurses, anesthesiologists do that job. 00:31:25.906 --> 00:31:27.326 A:middle So I knew the jobs. 00:31:27.916 --> 00:31:33.076 A:middle But the approach to the patient is completely different from 00:31:33.146 --> 00:31:38.386 A:middle India to hear in here will be more like a psychosocial aspect, 00:31:38.866 --> 00:31:42.736 A:middle although there is more black and white. 00:31:42.806 --> 00:31:45.416 A:middle So that aspect was different. 00:31:46.316 --> 00:31:52.536 A:middle And again, I had a really good Mendel's inviting us. 00:31:53.146 --> 00:31:55.666 A:middle And, um, but, but I have to say the second day 00:31:55.666 --> 00:31:58.516 A:middle of my body for us, I see you. 00:31:59.256 --> 00:32:02.506 A:middle I got a baby with a ventilator. 00:32:02.596 --> 00:32:03.806 A:middle It's a home ventilator. 00:32:03.876 --> 00:32:05.496 A:middle I had no clue about it. 00:32:05.746 --> 00:32:08.636 A:middle And the pediatric ICU, the intensivist, 00:32:09.126 --> 00:32:11.706 A:middle respiratory therapist, and the nurse, 00:32:12.446 --> 00:32:16.116 A:middle three of them can't hold me handheld me that day. 00:32:16.646 --> 00:32:21.386 A:middle If they were not holding me like that, 00:32:21.696 --> 00:32:23.476 A:middle if I would have left that day 00:32:23.566 --> 00:32:25.166 A:middle because it was really hard for me. 00:32:25.806 --> 00:32:28.846 A:middle But they were with me that 12 hour shift. 00:32:29.416 --> 00:32:32.336 A:middle Then, you know, I talk to the manager. 00:32:32.406 --> 00:32:36.136 A:middle Then I my my real Mendel came the next day. 00:32:36.456 --> 00:32:38.276 A:middle So I did the night shift. 00:32:38.366 --> 00:32:39.836 A:middle I have to say that while 00:32:39.916 --> 00:32:42.496 A:middle the Presbyterian Hospital taught me everything 00:32:42.496 --> 00:32:43.376 A:middle about a mode again, 00:32:44.076 --> 00:32:47.876 A:middle and they taught me all good how to treat people 00:32:47.876 --> 00:32:49.496 A:middle like how people will be. 00:32:50.046 --> 00:32:54.076 A:middle That the, I would say that's one of the most I don't 00:32:54.146 --> 00:32:57.206 A:middle I always say that's my mother's house while it was 00:32:57.296 --> 00:32:58.706 A:middle for dairy until today. 00:32:58.846 --> 00:32:59.776 A:middle I am ready. 00:32:59.776 --> 00:33:01.796 A:middle That place is very close to my heart 00:33:02.436 --> 00:33:06.446 A:middle and I worked there until 2008. 00:33:08.296 --> 00:33:12.296 A:middle And while you're working in this capacity, 00:33:12.296 --> 00:33:13.636 A:middle allele Presbyterian created, 00:33:13.706 --> 00:33:18.236 A:middle did you still have any of your previous sort of desire to, 00:33:18.306 --> 00:33:20.876 A:middle to work as a professor or this point we broke 00:33:20.876 --> 00:33:22.906 A:middle out on working in a hospital. 00:33:23.396 --> 00:33:25.906 A:middle So this is the beauty of nursing. 00:33:26.546 --> 00:33:28.596 A:middle In nursing, if you, 00:33:28.676 --> 00:33:30.806 A:middle if you registered nurse, 00:33:31.176 --> 00:33:34.366 A:middle whatever your passion is other than Nursing, 00:33:34.806 --> 00:33:36.726 A:middle the nice thing will allow you to do that. 00:33:37.436 --> 00:33:41.686 A:middle I thought the first one near I told you I didn't know anything 00:33:41.686 --> 00:33:42.586 A:middle about the system, 00:33:42.676 --> 00:33:44.436 A:middle so it was really hard for me. 00:33:44.846 --> 00:33:48.526 A:middle But one thing they did knowingly or unknowingly, 00:33:48.826 --> 00:33:52.166 A:middle you know, they gave me the hardest patient every day 00:33:52.536 --> 00:33:53.236 A:middle the most. 00:33:53.306 --> 00:33:55.036 A:middle If you have two ventilators, 00:33:55.106 --> 00:33:57.456 A:middle I get that to ventilate a patient that day. 00:33:57.676 --> 00:33:58.576 A:middle I know for sure. 00:33:59.126 --> 00:34:03.236 A:middle But within one year I learn the system inside out. 00:34:03.306 --> 00:34:06.116 A:middle I learn how to take care of pediatric ICU patients. 00:34:06.336 --> 00:34:08.176 A:middle I learned how to take the floor 00:34:08.176 --> 00:34:09.716 A:middle to pediatrics, so I learned that. 00:34:09.966 --> 00:34:12.396 A:middle Then we also flow to neonatal ICU. 00:34:12.506 --> 00:34:13.956 A:middle So I learned that. 00:34:13.956 --> 00:34:15.026 A:middle And gradually, 00:34:15.306 --> 00:34:19.836 A:middle that's when I met the Los Angeles Valley College team. 00:34:19.926 --> 00:34:22.456 A:middle They, the clinical instructor, 00:34:22.576 --> 00:34:26.436 A:middle bring the students for pediatric nursing expedients. 00:34:27.116 --> 00:34:31.436 A:middle And she started giving me students and they work with me. 00:34:31.716 --> 00:34:32.826 A:middle And I teach them. 00:34:33.446 --> 00:34:34.156 A:middle Soon. 00:34:34.516 --> 00:34:38.526 A:middle My managers started giving me new employees to orient. 00:34:39.246 --> 00:34:43.626 A:middle And then I started getting the BSN students 00:34:43.626 --> 00:34:45.606 A:middle for leadership they come so I 00:34:45.906 --> 00:34:49.206 A:middle always have either one or minimum one student 00:34:49.326 --> 00:34:53.186 A:middle or two students with me while I was in Valley College. 00:34:53.736 --> 00:34:57.006 A:middle And that's how they always say 00:34:57.006 --> 00:34:58.966 A:middle that you teach really good, you know. 00:34:59.676 --> 00:35:02.056 A:middle So you will, you will be good as a teacher. 00:35:02.206 --> 00:35:05.056 A:middle So every one item define that nature in me. 00:35:06.096 --> 00:35:09.536 A:middle But, you know, I didn't want to go anywhere because I 00:35:09.606 --> 00:35:12.776 A:middle didn't know anything other than violet press at that time. 00:35:13.336 --> 00:35:17.256 A:middle But the teachers always one of the clinical instructor you, 00:35:17.376 --> 00:35:18.906 A:middle you've probably knock out these night. 00:35:18.976 --> 00:35:21.196 A:middle She always tell me breathe or you should apply there. 00:35:21.726 --> 00:35:23.926 A:middle You can work as a clinical instructor. 00:35:24.356 --> 00:35:27.376 A:middle And one's, Wiley College had 00:35:27.456 --> 00:35:29.666 A:middle a co-op program with Wiley Press 00:35:29.996 --> 00:35:32.536 A:middle and they wanted additional clinical instructors. 00:35:33.036 --> 00:35:35.706 A:middle And my manager came and gave me the flyer. 00:35:35.776 --> 00:35:37.326 A:middle Why don't you apply for this? 00:35:37.516 --> 00:35:39.136 A:middle And it will be good for you. 00:35:39.206 --> 00:35:40.786 A:middle So I applied and that's why, 00:35:41.146 --> 00:35:44.796 A:middle that's how I got my first clinical instructor job 00:35:44.796 --> 00:35:45.706 A:middle in WileyPlus. 00:35:45.776 --> 00:35:48.456 A:middle Why they call it and what you present. 00:35:49.516 --> 00:35:50.426 A:middle Then? What year? 00:35:50.426 --> 00:35:51.886 A:middle 2009, February. 00:35:52.356 --> 00:35:53.596 A:middle Okay. Yeah. 00:35:54.846 --> 00:35:57.746 A:middle So at this time you're teaching part time 00:35:57.746 --> 00:35:59.276 A:middle and still are very press. 00:35:59.786 --> 00:36:04.566 A:middle I know from Wiley Press I also moved to Kaiser at that time 00:36:04.566 --> 00:36:06.976 A:middle because while it press a, 00:36:07.076 --> 00:36:08.376 A:middle it is really nice. 00:36:08.606 --> 00:36:16.626 A:middle But I needed more and for better better insurance purpose 00:36:16.626 --> 00:36:18.506 A:middle and better pay purpose. 00:36:18.856 --> 00:36:21.806 A:middle And also I kind of learn everything I could 00:36:21.806 --> 00:36:22.976 A:middle from Wiley Press. 00:36:23.316 --> 00:36:28.846 A:middle So I moved to sunset Kaiser pediatrics while I was working 00:36:28.846 --> 00:36:31.526 A:middle in when I got the job in 2009, 00:36:31.676 --> 00:36:36.316 A:middle I was actually invited Wiley plus podium case 00:36:36.316 --> 00:36:38.606 A:middle on Sunset pediatric unit full-time. 00:36:39.196 --> 00:36:43.076 A:middle Beta is like a 32 but big big unit. 00:36:43.456 --> 00:36:47.186 A:middle And I was doing the part-time clinical instructor here. 00:36:48.356 --> 00:36:49.706 A:middle It was a lot. 00:36:49.776 --> 00:36:51.146 A:middle It was a long title. 00:36:51.276 --> 00:36:52.816 A:middle I have no idea how I did all that, 00:36:53.006 --> 00:36:56.326 A:middle but I did that then. 00:36:56.686 --> 00:36:59.136 A:middle How did at what point did you become full time? 00:37:00.006 --> 00:37:04.586 A:middle So so since 2009, I started walking. 00:37:04.716 --> 00:37:08.606 A:middle Wiley College, 2012, kathy Snyder, her diet. 00:37:09.396 --> 00:37:11.536 A:middle I have to say these people, 00:37:12.116 --> 00:37:13.536 A:middle they tricked me into it. 00:37:14.746 --> 00:37:18.106 A:middle I would say full-time fact that they like Wendy 00:37:18.316 --> 00:37:20.626 A:middle and click one day they call me 00:37:20.626 --> 00:37:22.436 A:middle and I was working in Geyser Basin. 00:37:22.506 --> 00:37:24.436 A:middle Peter, we have to tell you something. 00:37:24.506 --> 00:37:28.186 A:middle I said what you need to apply to this full-time position. 00:37:28.476 --> 00:37:31.036 A:middle Okay. So I'd like but, but, but there's, 00:37:31.116 --> 00:37:35.726 A:middle they told me the most amazing stories about Wiley, 00:37:36.116 --> 00:37:39.126 A:middle Wiley College, but they never told me what is it going 00:37:39.126 --> 00:37:41.346 A:middle to be a support by. 00:37:41.526 --> 00:37:43.526 A:middle I fell into it. 00:37:43.606 --> 00:37:49.516 A:middle I felt that I applied and I got a job in fall 2020. 00:37:51.436 --> 00:37:54.906 A:middle That's when I became the Full-time Pediatric Instructor. 00:37:55.646 --> 00:37:58.246 A:middle How has your experience been a vehicle? 00:37:59.156 --> 00:38:02.626 A:middle It the most I I love it. 00:38:02.626 --> 00:38:04.156 A:middle Love it, love it. 00:38:04.316 --> 00:38:07.476 A:middle Even though it's so, you know, 00:38:08.236 --> 00:38:10.636 A:middle you guys know, we know like there was 00:38:10.636 --> 00:38:13.076 A:middle so much work other than teaching. 00:38:13.186 --> 00:38:14.996 A:middle I didn't know the behind scenes work. 00:38:15.596 --> 00:38:16.746 A:middle You know, I didn't know. 00:38:17.026 --> 00:38:18.716 A:middle But even everything I learned, 00:38:19.876 --> 00:38:21.686 A:middle I really love teaching. 00:38:21.916 --> 00:38:23.096 A:middle I feel like, you know, 00:38:23.176 --> 00:38:26.706 A:middle I can work maybe 24, 7 without. 00:38:26.956 --> 00:38:28.576 A:middle My body will be tired, 00:38:28.646 --> 00:38:30.086 A:middle but my mind will be okay. 00:38:30.446 --> 00:38:34.636 A:middle So Wiley College, I would say since I worked 00:38:34.636 --> 00:38:36.726 A:middle in many institutions by that time. 00:38:37.676 --> 00:38:39.726 A:middle And Wiley College also have a 00:38:39.726 --> 00:38:42.566 A:middle like a family approach like WileyPlus. 00:38:43.726 --> 00:38:44.826 A:middle That's what I can say. 00:38:45.276 --> 00:38:48.666 A:middle The other supporting is like the support system is amazing 00:38:48.666 --> 00:38:49.496 A:middle in body coordinates. 00:38:50.866 --> 00:38:54.406 A:middle What do you find is the most important thing in 00:38:54.476 --> 00:38:59.106 A:middle the nursing candidates that you bring into your program. 00:38:59.516 --> 00:39:01.436 A:middle So when someone come, 00:39:01.686 --> 00:39:03.676 A:middle what I'm looking for is, 00:39:04.366 --> 00:39:08.516 A:middle are they so the most important their attitude? 00:39:08.966 --> 00:39:11.196 A:middle Are they passionate about nursing? 00:39:11.446 --> 00:39:13.486 A:middle Are they a service oriented person? 00:39:14.606 --> 00:39:17.836 A:middle Are you academically strong enough 00:39:18.096 --> 00:39:20.296 A:middle to withstand the rigors of this program? 00:39:20.996 --> 00:39:22.966 A:middle So these are the, some of the stuff. 00:39:23.146 --> 00:39:26.576 A:middle And most importantly, I will look at your attitude, 00:39:26.646 --> 00:39:29.656 A:middle your willingness to learn, willingness to change. 00:39:30.566 --> 00:39:32.636 A:middle Can you empathize with someone 00:39:32.706 --> 00:39:35.886 A:middle because you're going to take care of someone when they need, 00:39:36.006 --> 00:39:38.726 A:middle when they are very vulnerable and you have to be strong. 00:39:39.716 --> 00:39:41.726 A:middle So that's what I'm looking for. 00:39:44.286 --> 00:39:45.536 A:middle Yeah, I think for me, 00:39:45.606 --> 00:39:48.476 A:middle my wife is a nurse and my sister my sister-in-law, 00:39:48.546 --> 00:39:51.016 A:middle the nurse and a lot of nursing friends. 00:39:51.396 --> 00:39:55.936 A:middle And I find that the thing that's so amazing about the jobs, 00:39:56.106 --> 00:39:59.466 A:middle IT challenge you spiritually challenge you intellectually 00:39:59.796 --> 00:40:01.646 A:middle challenged physically. 00:40:02.076 --> 00:40:02.456 A:middle Oh yeah. 00:40:02.946 --> 00:40:03.536 A:middle Oh yeah. 00:40:03.876 --> 00:40:06.536 A:middle And I think that's the part that people don't realize. 00:40:07.036 --> 00:40:07.486 A:middle Oh, yes. 00:40:07.916 --> 00:40:08.686 A:middle It's a workout. 00:40:09.146 --> 00:40:12.826 A:middle Yeah. And I know when my pop of my experience 00:40:12.826 --> 00:40:15.226 A:middle in case I had also adult patients. 00:40:15.756 --> 00:40:18.176 A:middle So the physical talent comes in. 00:40:18.466 --> 00:40:19.606 A:middle That's where it is. 00:40:19.686 --> 00:40:21.836 A:middle Like, you know, you have, you know, 00:40:21.906 --> 00:40:23.366 A:middle you you have maybe one nurse 00:40:23.366 --> 00:40:26.276 A:middle and the CNA sometimes you don't have any one hand. 00:40:26.346 --> 00:40:28.616 A:middle You need to turn the page and there is no one. 00:40:29.256 --> 00:40:30.066 A:middle You have to do it. 00:40:30.536 --> 00:40:33.346 A:middle And the ergonomic to come in handy. 00:40:33.486 --> 00:40:34.756 A:middle And like, you know, 00:40:35.426 --> 00:40:39.196 A:middle you you, you have to put someone else before you. 00:40:40.166 --> 00:40:43.886 A:middle You know, they maybe that's you and you need to do that. 00:40:44.076 --> 00:40:46.456 A:middle And you, you out for patients. 00:40:46.896 --> 00:40:49.006 A:middle And for patients like very, 00:40:49.076 --> 00:40:51.626 A:middle they are there in acutely ill 00:40:51.626 --> 00:40:55.216 A:middle and their needs are so different, 00:40:55.646 --> 00:40:57.496 A:middle but all important for them. 00:40:57.746 --> 00:41:01.386 A:middle So it may need to prioritize critically think. 00:41:02.136 --> 00:41:04.476 A:middle And, and if she asked for patients, 00:41:04.546 --> 00:41:08.056 A:middle she has to realize which patient or he has to live which patient. 00:41:08.186 --> 00:41:11.216 A:middle I'm going to add speech problem I'm going to post. 00:41:11.796 --> 00:41:13.836 A:middle And every day it changes, 00:41:13.906 --> 00:41:17.186 A:middle every minute, every hour patient status change. 00:41:17.546 --> 00:41:19.196 A:middle You have to be adaptable. 00:41:20.456 --> 00:41:22.436 A:middle And you cannot say that, 00:41:22.506 --> 00:41:23.756 A:middle you know what, I'm tired. 00:41:23.946 --> 00:41:24.626 A:middle I need to break. 00:41:24.626 --> 00:41:24.956 A:middle No. 00:41:26.726 --> 00:41:28.706 A:middle Yeah. I think the other thing when I taught two 00:41:28.706 --> 00:41:30.136 A:middle versus the one thing they hate the 00:41:30.206 --> 00:41:34.036 A:middle most is RN who refuses to change a dirty diaper. 00:41:34.686 --> 00:41:38.236 A:middle Oh, no, How do I write that rule? 00:41:38.396 --> 00:41:40.516 A:middle One of just who? 00:41:40.866 --> 00:41:42.136 A:middle The nurses the other nurses, 00:41:42.206 --> 00:41:44.676 A:middle Hey, are they won't get their hands dirty? 00:41:45.246 --> 00:41:45.326 A:middle Yeah. 00:41:45.476 --> 00:41:47.806 A:middle Bailey's when I was working in case. 00:41:47.976 --> 00:41:51.036 A:middle So in pediatrics that is like you do 00:41:51.146 --> 00:41:55.556 A:middle everything because periods until nine and pediatric ICU, 00:41:55.656 --> 00:41:58.286 A:middle that's not even a CNA or anyone. 00:41:58.876 --> 00:42:00.966 A:middle When I went to adult nursing. 00:42:01.886 --> 00:42:05.956 A:middle There is there is even though that our CNAs, 00:42:06.706 --> 00:42:10.506 A:middle you can't not look for or wait for someone 00:42:10.576 --> 00:42:15.476 A:middle when someone needs help like in that direction. 00:42:15.686 --> 00:42:18.946 A:middle I every day I went to work, 00:42:19.286 --> 00:42:20.706 A:middle I had to clean diaper, 00:42:20.776 --> 00:42:22.076 A:middle I had to clean patient. 00:42:22.346 --> 00:42:25.756 A:middle That's D That's a rupee foreigners. 00:42:26.236 --> 00:42:27.976 A:middle And if you don't want to do it, 00:42:28.296 --> 00:42:31.516 A:middle please do not end up in this career. 00:42:32.686 --> 00:42:36.866 A:middle You have to think about it when you are sick or when you are. 00:42:37.276 --> 00:42:41.206 A:middle Do you want to be in a bed without bathing or do you want 00:42:41.206 --> 00:42:43.056 A:middle to be in the midst of urine? 00:42:43.296 --> 00:42:44.366 A:middle You don't want to be right? 00:42:44.506 --> 00:42:47.956 A:middle And the same thing is both ways in front of you. 00:42:48.046 --> 00:42:51.106 A:middle You have to think about you in that situation and clean 00:42:52.646 --> 00:42:54.906 A:middle the head of friends, very close friend. 00:42:55.186 --> 00:42:59.036 A:middle And she had one more year of nursing to finish to get a BSN. 00:42:59.106 --> 00:43:01.606 A:middle And then she just realize that she want to clean 00:43:01.746 --> 00:43:04.976 A:middle an adult diaper for the rest of her life and she changed. 00:43:05.056 --> 00:43:05.706 A:middle It. 00:43:05.786 --> 00:43:06.636 A:middle It was a good decision. 00:43:07.096 --> 00:43:07.776 A:middle Yeah. 00:43:08.586 --> 00:43:10.536 A:middle I appreciate the honesty. 00:43:11.006 --> 00:43:15.086 A:middle I salute people who make decision and late. 00:43:16.536 --> 00:43:16.656 A:middle Yeah. 00:43:18.226 --> 00:43:19.306 A:middle Prefer. 00:43:19.376 --> 00:43:23.286 A:middle Within your your color palette here. 00:43:23.966 --> 00:43:26.106 A:middle You became full-time in 2012. 00:43:26.276 --> 00:43:28.786 A:middle You become the department chair for health science. 00:43:29.206 --> 00:43:34.836 A:middle So I became assistant chair in 2016. 00:43:35.346 --> 00:43:37.676 A:middle And knowing nothing, again, 00:43:37.746 --> 00:43:41.666 A:middle I have to say that our previous assistant sales assistant chair 00:43:41.716 --> 00:43:42.526 A:middle for their life. 00:43:43.146 --> 00:43:49.836 A:middle So I thought that's how I'm going to be then 2017 LSE gate, 00:43:49.906 --> 00:43:52.666 A:middle that golden handshake out of the lack of it. 00:43:53.636 --> 00:43:57.006 A:middle So there was only limited people who 00:43:57.086 --> 00:43:58.746 A:middle are eligible to be the director 00:43:58.746 --> 00:44:00.576 A:middle because because of the Biada mandate, 00:44:00.646 --> 00:44:02.116 A:middle we have different eligibility. 00:44:02.896 --> 00:44:08.576 A:middle So so I applied I had no choice but I applied for that. 00:44:08.846 --> 00:44:12.466 A:middle What? I gave the candidacy application. 00:44:13.116 --> 00:44:15.576 A:middle And in 2017, Paul, 00:44:16.406 --> 00:44:19.696 A:middle they bought making for chair position 00:44:20.316 --> 00:44:21.526 A:middle and the director position. 00:44:23.096 --> 00:44:27.926 A:middle And how have you like working in that capacity? 00:44:28.046 --> 00:44:30.836 A:middle I imagine that there is each administrative work, 00:44:30.906 --> 00:44:32.706 A:middle especially for nursing program. 00:44:32.776 --> 00:44:34.996 A:middle Was it something that you already had experience 00:44:34.996 --> 00:44:36.136 A:middle with this system nerves, 00:44:36.246 --> 00:44:42.096 A:middle there's just no good I know I was not at all equipped 00:44:42.096 --> 00:44:44.526 A:middle with that kind of knowledge at all. 00:44:44.806 --> 00:44:46.106 A:middle Even assistant director. 00:44:46.176 --> 00:44:48.976 A:middle When I was an assistant director Veblen of opting for 00:44:49.046 --> 00:44:51.906 A:middle our national accreditation for a central. 00:44:52.196 --> 00:44:53.076 A:middle One good thing. 00:44:53.176 --> 00:44:55.406 A:middle I was able to walk on curriculum a lot, 00:44:55.486 --> 00:45:02.436 A:middle so I had a good grasp of our curriculum and everything else. 00:45:02.756 --> 00:45:05.606 A:middle What I saw on third from Mary, 00:45:06.146 --> 00:45:07.746 A:middle and once you sit in the tail, 00:45:08.006 --> 00:45:10.396 A:middle you start getting inmates and so you have 00:45:10.396 --> 00:45:11.496 A:middle to do one after the other. 00:45:11.916 --> 00:45:13.436 A:middle So the next thing I know, 00:45:13.976 --> 00:45:15.586 A:middle I have to do the assignment. 00:45:15.776 --> 00:45:19.206 A:middle So I learned that through the AFT was if the contract 00:45:19.206 --> 00:45:21.426 A:middle that both was my friend. 00:45:22.196 --> 00:45:25.336 A:middle Again, I have to say lowly, 00:45:25.406 --> 00:45:26.946 A:middle the dean helped me a lot. 00:45:27.586 --> 00:45:30.096 A:middle And all the academic affairs team, 00:45:30.206 --> 00:45:34.436 A:middle even a high I have to give kudos to David condones. 00:45:34.546 --> 00:45:38.046 A:middle He he was patient enough to sit with me, 00:45:38.146 --> 00:45:43.046 A:middle so I knew I was able to do my math for the units 00:45:43.046 --> 00:45:45.276 A:middle and the seniority and all those things. 00:45:45.806 --> 00:45:47.676 A:middle But they were all patient? 00:45:48.286 --> 00:45:48.966 A:middle No, no. 00:45:49.146 --> 00:45:51.806 A:middle She helped me a lot and many people, 00:45:52.716 --> 00:45:54.476 A:middle you know, down the line helped me. 00:45:54.896 --> 00:45:57.876 A:middle And then B, how strict discipline and also 00:45:57.946 --> 00:46:01.066 A:middle the other directors in our discipline helped me. 00:46:01.686 --> 00:46:05.576 A:middle Then again, we have COVID and California are directors 00:46:05.576 --> 00:46:07.206 A:middle of nursing like the end there. 00:46:07.276 --> 00:46:09.606 A:middle So v, when we go for conferences, 00:46:09.686 --> 00:46:11.006 A:middle we met our director, 00:46:11.076 --> 00:46:12.636 A:middle so I learn from them. 00:46:13.266 --> 00:46:16.406 A:middle So the first-year, even now it's every day, 00:46:16.506 --> 00:46:18.366 A:middle it's, uh, it's something new. 00:46:18.866 --> 00:46:22.766 A:middle So but it was completely a new learning for me. 00:46:25.256 --> 00:46:28.366 A:middle The thing I like about nursing is sort of what your career is 00:46:28.546 --> 00:46:31.866 A:middle sort of shown is that could work on a nursing floor, 00:46:32.046 --> 00:46:35.236 A:middle you'd work at a doctor's office management, 00:46:35.306 --> 00:46:36.676 A:middle your grid that you can teach. 00:46:36.746 --> 00:46:38.906 A:middle What are some of the other areas that you think are 00:46:39.196 --> 00:46:41.856 A:middle sort of so exciting potential for nursing. 00:46:42.226 --> 00:46:47.456 A:middle So I always tell them that you tell me any kind 00:46:47.456 --> 00:46:50.356 A:middle of a caveat or like a jaw. 00:46:50.946 --> 00:46:53.606 A:middle We have that the nursing like if someone, 00:46:53.686 --> 00:46:55.976 A:middle if a nurse who love computer science, 00:46:56.596 --> 00:46:59.176 A:middle she can go as a nurse informatics, 00:46:59.246 --> 00:47:03.736 A:middle or she can walk the hospital asset register notes and be in 00:47:03.906 --> 00:47:08.286 A:middle a community where they maintain or money 00:47:08.286 --> 00:47:09.826 A:middle to the electronic medical record. 00:47:10.266 --> 00:47:12.116 A:middle So all that work. 00:47:12.216 --> 00:47:14.676 A:middle I look at the technology solvable, 00:47:14.756 --> 00:47:17.266 A:middle some can do that so she can go later 00:47:17.266 --> 00:47:19.316 A:middle in the Nursing Informatics position. 00:47:19.816 --> 00:47:22.306 A:middle And if you've got a business oriented person, 00:47:22.506 --> 00:47:25.016 A:middle you can get home health agencies. 00:47:25.646 --> 00:47:28.276 A:middle And so if you, 00:47:28.346 --> 00:47:30.306 A:middle you can run the business through that. 00:47:30.666 --> 00:47:35.036 A:middle So now if you are a Monday 00:47:35.226 --> 00:47:37.296 A:middle through Friday person and you want 00:47:37.296 --> 00:47:39.646 A:middle to walk around, your kids schedules. 00:47:40.376 --> 00:47:42.246 A:middle Outpatient clinics is an option. 00:47:43.006 --> 00:47:45.716 A:middle And another option is the school health nurse. 00:47:46.356 --> 00:47:47.756 A:middle So you can do that. 00:47:48.486 --> 00:47:52.566 A:middle And inpatient, again, you have met served, 00:47:53.186 --> 00:47:57.896 A:middle and then you can advance you are Mexico to telemetry. 00:47:58.256 --> 00:48:02.936 A:middle Then I see you than if you don't like adult patients, 00:48:03.046 --> 00:48:04.706 A:middle then you can go to pediatrics. 00:48:05.046 --> 00:48:07.916 A:middle You can go to statistics and labor and delivery, 00:48:08.176 --> 00:48:11.306 A:middle neonatal ICU, and even geriatrics. 00:48:11.906 --> 00:48:15.836 A:middle And then that skilled nursing facilities you can go there's 00:48:15.836 --> 00:48:17.626 A:middle places where you can work. 00:48:18.136 --> 00:48:23.186 A:middle And so any kind of job you like and case management, 00:48:23.836 --> 00:48:25.226 A:middle palliative care, nurses. 00:48:25.516 --> 00:48:30.406 A:middle So the nursing opportunities are endless. 00:48:31.246 --> 00:48:34.756 A:middle And if there is a pull some who say that I want to be outdoors, 00:48:34.896 --> 00:48:36.906 A:middle that is like helicopter nurses, like, you know, 00:48:37.166 --> 00:48:38.626 A:middle the emergency ambulance team. 00:48:39.026 --> 00:48:39.206 A:middle Yeah. 00:48:40.086 --> 00:48:42.756 A:middle Tidy and transport nurses, though. 00:48:43.096 --> 00:48:46.136 A:middle You name it, you can find something what you 00:48:46.136 --> 00:48:47.166 A:middle like in nursing. 00:48:47.246 --> 00:48:48.426 A:middle So that's 0, 1. 00:48:48.586 --> 00:48:51.056 A:middle The most advantage, like if you become a nurse. 00:48:51.716 --> 00:48:54.156 A:middle And many of my friends are now Nurse Practitioners 00:48:54.156 --> 00:48:55.496 A:middle after the nursing degree. 00:48:55.846 --> 00:48:58.786 A:middle And many of our graduates are also Nurse Practitioners. 00:49:00.466 --> 00:49:02.776 A:middle And then what does that allow them to 00:49:02.856 --> 00:49:04.526 A:middle do and how they're different from us, 00:49:04.526 --> 00:49:05.726 A:middle a physician's assistant. 00:49:06.326 --> 00:49:08.276 A:middle The physicians understand. 00:49:08.746 --> 00:49:13.686 A:middle I believe they don't need a doctor's license to sign. 00:49:14.026 --> 00:49:15.726 A:middle This practitioner is still working 00:49:15.726 --> 00:49:16.806 A:middle under a doctor's license. 00:49:17.246 --> 00:49:18.006 A:middle I see. 00:49:18.096 --> 00:49:20.046 A:middle But yeah, they still have 00:49:20.046 --> 00:49:23.906 A:middle to they're not I don't think they're independent yet. 00:49:25.106 --> 00:49:26.516 A:middle So badly that yeah. 00:49:27.976 --> 00:49:29.786 A:middle I just wanted to get your sensor 00:49:29.786 --> 00:49:32.006 A:middle with so much experience and diversity in 00:49:32.076 --> 00:49:36.276 A:middle terms of programs that you've seen in places where you work. 00:49:36.346 --> 00:49:39.186 A:middle What would you say makes the nursing program 00:49:39.186 --> 00:49:41.396 A:middle at Valley College stand now for 00:49:41.476 --> 00:49:43.846 A:middle any students or anybody who perhaps 00:49:44.106 --> 00:49:47.156 A:middle is interested in health science and interested in nursing. 00:49:47.656 --> 00:49:49.626 A:middle What's unique about early colleges program? 00:49:50.016 --> 00:49:52.256 A:middle So Wiley College Program is, 00:49:52.956 --> 00:49:56.156 A:middle first of all, it's a Board of Registered Nursing upload. 00:49:56.666 --> 00:49:59.556 A:middle Second, via nationally accredited by 00:49:59.776 --> 00:50:03.186 A:middle Jason Accreditation Commission for nursing education. 00:50:03.646 --> 00:50:07.326 A:middle Which if you look at California and not that many colleges have, 00:50:07.826 --> 00:50:10.976 A:middle they're trying now to almost everyone to get that. 00:50:11.776 --> 00:50:13.176 A:middle So we have those two. 00:50:13.246 --> 00:50:17.066 A:middle That means our standards need to be high all dates. 00:50:17.346 --> 00:50:20.766 A:middle So attrition is only in teens, 00:50:20.966 --> 00:50:24.806 A:middle like 16 percent dates and retention of course is high. 00:50:25.276 --> 00:50:28.376 A:middle Our pass rate before COVID was 94, 00:50:28.446 --> 00:50:30.746 A:middle 95 pools and for the first-time takers. 00:50:31.356 --> 00:50:36.486 A:middle So and also the clinical experience we tried 00:50:36.486 --> 00:50:38.906 A:middle to give the best clinical experience, 00:50:38.986 --> 00:50:44.886 A:middle be go to Kaiser and we go to Providence system, 00:50:45.076 --> 00:50:48.176 A:middle Sherman Oaks wildly press barons. 00:50:48.246 --> 00:50:51.836 A:middle We go, let me go to almost all the neighboring 00:50:51.836 --> 00:50:53.976 A:middle because petals and clinics. 00:50:54.186 --> 00:50:58.906 A:middle So our varieties of learning experience we are giving it make 00:50:58.976 --> 00:51:02.346 A:middle them easier for them to transition when they graduate 00:51:02.346 --> 00:51:04.206 A:middle and to be an entry-level nurse. 00:51:05.506 --> 00:51:06.806 A:middle Yet, let me say this too, 00:51:06.876 --> 00:51:10.516 A:middle because I I actually talked with every nursing care and 00:51:10.606 --> 00:51:12.966 A:middle nursing students because I'm the one 00:51:12.966 --> 00:51:14.986 A:middle who teaches their dosage calculations. 00:51:15.276 --> 00:51:15.486 A:middle Yeah. 00:51:16.046 --> 00:51:18.966 A:middle They will say that their teachers are great. 00:51:19.546 --> 00:51:20.736 A:middle At the end of the day. 00:51:21.086 --> 00:51:23.006 A:middle That there is no goofing around. 00:51:23.076 --> 00:51:25.716 A:middle They feel like when they're there, they're going to be good. 00:51:25.926 --> 00:51:26.236 A:middle Yeah. 00:51:26.626 --> 00:51:28.856 A:middle Right. There's just certain professional 00:51:28.856 --> 00:51:30.006 A:middle and that is demanded 00:51:30.076 --> 00:51:33.506 A:middle of all the nursing faculty that is just outstanding. 00:51:33.816 --> 00:51:34.086 A:middle Yeah. 00:51:34.176 --> 00:51:35.746 A:middle So one, those kids, 00:51:35.906 --> 00:51:37.586 A:middle they're run hard but they do believe 00:51:37.586 --> 00:51:39.296 A:middle in what they're being taught. 00:51:39.426 --> 00:51:39.766 A:middle Yes. 00:51:39.846 --> 00:51:43.106 A:middle And then I think if you just look at the data, 00:51:43.236 --> 00:51:45.536 A:middle so for me, whenever a student comes up 00:51:45.606 --> 00:51:47.996 A:middle to me and says I'm going to go to this private college. 00:51:48.076 --> 00:51:50.006 A:middle It costs me $40 thousand a year. 00:51:50.466 --> 00:51:51.516 A:middle And I say, Okay, 00:51:51.666 --> 00:51:52.796 A:middle wait, I'm not saying no. 00:51:53.476 --> 00:51:57.376 A:middle So let's look up what percent of the people graduate. 00:51:57.456 --> 00:51:59.496 A:middle So when you get in, after you pay your 80 thousand, 00:51:59.496 --> 00:52:00.316 A:middle you get a degree. 00:52:00.686 --> 00:52:01.926 A:middle And let's look at what percent 00:52:01.926 --> 00:52:05.306 A:middle of the people actually pass the nursing board. 00:52:05.376 --> 00:52:06.806 A:middle It's not going to nursing school, 00:52:06.876 --> 00:52:07.806 A:middle they'll out to be a nurse. 00:52:08.196 --> 00:52:10.216 A:middle But it's passing in the past and the board. 00:52:10.586 --> 00:52:10.826 A:middle Yeah. 00:52:10.956 --> 00:52:13.636 A:middle And if you look at Valley College is numbers were one 00:52:13.636 --> 00:52:14.246 A:middle of the top. 00:52:14.536 --> 00:52:14.906 A:middle Yeah. 00:52:15.696 --> 00:52:16.606 A:middle You just can't compare. 00:52:17.006 --> 00:52:17.156 A:middle Yeah. 00:52:17.926 --> 00:52:22.776 A:middle And again, I got to say another thing that stand out. 00:52:22.846 --> 00:52:27.106 A:middle We do a lot of resources until somebody says, 00:52:27.226 --> 00:52:30.466 A:middle which when I talk to my colleagues and they say, 00:52:30.576 --> 00:52:31.786 A:middle Why you do with that, 00:52:31.876 --> 00:52:34.166 A:middle we have that reading comprehension Bell states 00:52:34.166 --> 00:52:34.846 A:middle that violation. 00:52:35.316 --> 00:52:36.616 A:middle Pharmacology tutoring. 00:52:36.866 --> 00:52:37.996 A:middle I told my students, 00:52:38.106 --> 00:52:39.846 A:middle if you need anything, 00:52:40.016 --> 00:52:41.046 A:middle you come and let me know. 00:52:41.306 --> 00:52:42.436 A:middle I will make it happen. 00:52:43.166 --> 00:52:45.986 A:middle I will make it happen that I would tell them that's 00:52:46.076 --> 00:52:49.296 A:middle a guaranteed tutoring service I can give you. 00:52:49.836 --> 00:52:50.876 A:middle You don't have to worry 00:52:50.876 --> 00:52:53.026 A:middle about how will you will get the sources, 00:52:53.206 --> 00:52:55.266 A:middle but you have to identify, 00:52:55.366 --> 00:52:57.236 A:middle sometimes as a faculty, 00:52:57.546 --> 00:52:59.836 A:middle we can identify your weaknesses, 00:53:00.016 --> 00:53:01.776 A:middle but sometimes you have to come and tell me. 00:53:02.196 --> 00:53:04.486 A:middle Sometimes, sometimes the students won't say 00:53:04.486 --> 00:53:06.196 A:middle that they don't have a place to study. 00:53:06.476 --> 00:53:08.016 A:middle I said like if underline nonetheless, 00:53:08.106 --> 00:53:11.466 A:middle you telling me I cannot help you, you know, 00:53:11.906 --> 00:53:15.036 A:middle we tried to do all kinds of assistance 00:53:15.406 --> 00:53:18.176 A:middle from any capacity, you know, 00:53:18.246 --> 00:53:20.406 A:middle when they come to our house and we also do 00:53:20.476 --> 00:53:24.546 A:middle an open house before each incoming classes come 00:53:24.626 --> 00:53:25.856 A:middle with their family. 00:53:26.226 --> 00:53:30.686 A:middle And we let them know the family that their students, 00:53:30.786 --> 00:53:32.796 A:middle their family members who are in the program. 00:53:33.236 --> 00:53:35.516 A:middle They have now LAB, see nursing, pharmacy. 00:53:35.736 --> 00:53:38.746 A:middle So daily see us more than they see you. 00:53:39.356 --> 00:53:41.006 A:middle So for two years. 00:53:41.176 --> 00:53:43.616 A:middle So please be ready for that. 00:53:43.966 --> 00:53:48.076 A:middle So we give that kind of upfront. 00:53:49.406 --> 00:53:51.916 A:middle In our we let them know. 00:53:52.246 --> 00:53:53.276 A:middle It's not easy. 00:53:53.946 --> 00:53:56.786 A:middle It's interesting because I get the students right 00:53:56.786 --> 00:53:57.656 A:middle after that meeting. 00:53:58.226 --> 00:54:00.216 A:middle The school hasn't even started. 00:54:00.426 --> 00:54:05.736 A:middle And you say go and learn dosage calculations for medication. 00:54:05.966 --> 00:54:07.216 A:middle We haven't start even school, 00:54:07.406 --> 00:54:09.496 A:middle just see, you know, it's going to be so hard. 00:54:09.896 --> 00:54:12.526 A:middle There is this workshop and you better have here, 00:54:12.606 --> 00:54:12.946 A:middle you know what? 00:54:13.056 --> 00:54:13.986 A:middle They all Cup. 00:54:14.596 --> 00:54:18.376 A:middle They do, then they all come at that school hasn't even started. 00:54:18.446 --> 00:54:20.176 A:middle They haven't even been enrolled in the program. 00:54:20.436 --> 00:54:20.536 A:middle Yeah. 00:54:20.606 --> 00:54:22.816 A:middle And there are already meeting me in the summer 00:54:22.926 --> 00:54:24.906 A:middle or in the winter on the vacation. 00:54:25.146 --> 00:54:28.106 A:middle And we set up for four days on the weekends. 00:54:28.246 --> 00:54:31.326 A:middle And they just all come and they have buy 00:54:31.326 --> 00:54:33.466 A:middle into their excited to be there. 00:54:33.986 --> 00:54:38.946 A:middle And I talked to my recent graduate the last lucky now 00:54:39.006 --> 00:54:39.856 A:middle in June. 00:54:40.216 --> 00:54:42.706 A:middle And I ask them, what will you give one advice 00:54:42.706 --> 00:54:44.016 A:middle to your incoming students? 00:54:44.416 --> 00:54:47.776 A:middle They say that these were three boys, right? 00:54:47.966 --> 00:54:52.376 A:middle And they said, please let them know that if they didn't study, 00:54:52.446 --> 00:54:55.526 A:middle if they didn't start like a week before the semester begins, 00:54:55.526 --> 00:54:56.616 A:middle they're already behind. 00:54:57.466 --> 00:55:00.466 A:middle So that's something you have to tell that it's a lot 00:55:00.466 --> 00:55:02.256 A:middle of study involve lot of reading. 00:55:02.626 --> 00:55:03.876 A:middle And they have to, 00:55:03.956 --> 00:55:06.676 A:middle it's not legal to just know what they know. 00:55:06.926 --> 00:55:08.726 A:middle It's an application of what they know. 00:55:09.036 --> 00:55:10.836 A:middle So they need to know first. 00:55:11.346 --> 00:55:13.676 A:middle So it's a lot of work, 00:55:13.746 --> 00:55:16.066 A:middle but it's worth it looking. 00:55:16.876 --> 00:55:18.236 A:middle While that might be, 00:55:18.756 --> 00:55:20.216 A:middle that might be a good place to, 00:55:20.306 --> 00:55:21.876 A:middle to wrap up with advice from, 00:55:21.946 --> 00:55:23.896 A:middle from former students here. 00:55:24.646 --> 00:55:26.776 A:middle I just want to say thank you so, 00:55:26.876 --> 00:55:29.886 A:middle so much for taking time out of your incredibly busy schedule 00:55:29.886 --> 00:55:31.986 A:middle and data to share with 00:55:32.186 --> 00:55:34.306 A:middle us your story and for giving us 00:55:34.376 --> 00:55:36.516 A:middle so many interesting details in the background 00:55:36.516 --> 00:55:37.966 A:middle or what your journey was like. 00:55:38.106 --> 00:55:40.176 A:middle I was incredibly inspiring story. 00:55:40.546 --> 00:55:42.986 A:middle And I know from other students who Collins 00:55:42.986 --> 00:55:44.506 A:middle at Valley College are great for 00:55:44.576 --> 00:55:46.866 A:middle everybody is to have you at the college and working 00:55:46.866 --> 00:55:48.546 A:middle in the capacity that that should you. 00:55:48.786 --> 00:55:49.286 A:middle Thank you. 00:55:49.286 --> 00:55:50.416 A:middle Thank you so much, Scott. 00:55:50.416 --> 00:55:51.106 A:middle I'm John. 00:55:51.176 --> 00:55:53.106 A:middle Thank you for giving me this opportunity 00:55:53.376 --> 00:55:56.576 A:middle to thank you so much. 00:55:56.576 --> 00:55:57.176 A:middle Okay. Bye.